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Re: The Boat... (a wanabe project log)

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:27 pm
by PaulW
Rubbish pics as its dark...

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Took the explod estate down, 500 mile trip in total :)

According to the display on the estate though, I averaged 7.1mpg... :jezza: :jezza: :jezza: :jezza:

Re: The Boat... (a wanabe project log)

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:29 pm
by Adam-D
killer, lol

should have some putting all that together

Re: The Boat... (a wanabe project log)

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:32 pm
by PaulW
Indeed :)

Should also make my money back selling the stuff I don't need, as it really is 'complete'

Re: The Boat... (a wanabe project log)

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:35 pm
by PaulW
Spent lots of money today on bits :)

Cambelt kit
Waterpump
Oil Cooler radiator, sealing plate, cover, etc etc...
Many many seal rings
Sump gaskets for fitting Omega sumps (yes sumps... Omega has 2 part sump, vectra only 1)
Many many screws, nuts and bolts

Also bought this

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/produ ... ine-stands

All in, about £320-odd in bits and bobs after discount :?

Re: The Boat... (a wanabe project log)

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:18 pm
by PaulW
Cheers to Adam-D for the loan of the engine hoist :) I even took the time to put the wheels on it the right way, which he says has been wrong for the past 4 years :lol:

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Also bought yet more bits today... So far I've bought...

1 x LPG Conversion Kit
1 x 3.0 MV6 ECU (Chipped)
1 x 3.0 Engine Loom
1 x LSD Differential
1 x AR35 Automatic Gearbox
1 x Lower Sump Pan
1 x Inlet Flange
1 x Alternator 120A
1 x A/C Compressor
1 x Power Steering Pump
1 x Z32SE Engine
1 x 93172354 - SET-TENSION ROLLER
1 x 93170697 - PUMP, WATER
2 x 90409175 - SEAL RING
4 x 11076852 - SEAL RING
1 x 93176626 - RADIATOR-ENGINE OIL
13 x 11095703 - SCREW
1 x 90501955 - COVER
2 x 90424578 - SCREW,HOLLOW M16
2 x 90409174 - NUT
1 x 9128256 - GASKET, OIL PAN
1 x 90469379 - GASKET, OIL PAN
20 x 11096901 - SCREW-TORX
2 x 11100282 - SCREW
1 x 90485251 - SEALING COMPOUND
1 x 90412159 - JUNCTION PIPE
4 x 11055767 - SCREW
3 x 11080343 - SCREW
3 x 11093621 - SCREW-TORX

Have to wait till tomorrow to get the engine on the stand, as waiting for p/n 11055767 (the 4 bolts).

Still alot to get (exhaust gaskets & manifolds, new inlet (current one has poor LPG nozzle positioning), oil pickup pipe & dipstick tube, rocker covers, various other gaskets, seals, o-rings, screws, bolts...)

And also have a fair few parts from the 3.2 to sell which I don't need so should make some money back :)

Also went over the LPG kit properly...

the injector pulse feed has been directly wired into the injector loom, there is no splitter before it connects, instead 2 multiplugs coming out of the front of the rail which feed to the lpg loom.

the wiring on the evaporator looks interesting, its hard wired into the lpg loom so cant just be unplugged, positioned, and plugged back in. the pipework looks a bit messy, so will be replaced anyway.

there are 2 injectors on the plenum to compliment the 6 on the manifold. no idea where these connect... there is a run off from: the injectors to what looks like a map sensor, which then runs off another feed. guessing this is for the plenum.

there is also a nipple on the rear end of the evaporator which has nothing connected... could this be vacuum from engine??

the loom running to the rear tank was also just 'cut'... there are 2 main power feeds, and 2 smaller wires, so four in total.

there is also what looks like +ve and -ve from the ecu end of the lpg loom, +ve is 15A fused. there is also a third 'cut' wire which came from the engine loom, id guess rpm feed. no wiring for lambda tho (mainly for diagnostics and tuning tho so not usually wired)

So... need to adapt the loom so I can 'hot-plug' the evaporator and all other components. Also need to sort out the back end of the loom which feeds the tank and adapt it to fit whatever one I get...

Fun times :)

Re: The Boat... (a wanabe project log)

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:42 pm
by PaulW
Well started the stripdown of the Z32 today... Got as far as getting the inlet off, then had 3 bolts round off which were holding the flange in place :rant:

What an annoying inlet design though! You have about a million torx screws holding it in, you think you get them all out, then more need finding... Truly annoying! Camcover gaskets are a weakspot on the V6 lump aswell, the Omega layout is annoying enough, I can see the Vectra C layout even more annoying! The fuel rail, injectors, everything come off with the inlet...

So yeah, after struggling to get the engine on the stand (and having to buy some more bolts to fit), here are todays shots...

Engine on the stand (minus Inlet)
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The *annoying* Inlet (I'm so glad I don't own a Vectra C now...)
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And now all covered up ready for me to carry on with in a few days after I get some tools to remove the rounded bolts...
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Also ordered another £100 worth of bolts, seals, gaskets, etc... Should be here by Wednesday all going well, but I can still crack on easy enough with everything else in the mean time :)

Re: The Boat... (a wanabe project log)

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:47 pm
by PaulW
Well todays order of what I thought would be about another £100 worth of stuff turned out to be just shy of £300 :shock:

This is what I have so far... (what has actually arrived that is) - NONE of this was a part of Todays order either...

Oil Cooler (the 2nd weakest link on the V6)
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Oil cooler sandwich plate
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Timing Belt Kit (Belt & Pre-tensioners)
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Waterpump
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New Oil Filler Cap
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Some O-ring seal (for rear of block to coolant pipe)
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Sump Gaskets
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Assortment of Sealant and such
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Assortment of various Bolts, Nuts, O-rings, and other little bagged bits
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And lets see if anyone can tell me what's wrong with this Oil Filter ;)
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Still waiting on another seal I ordered over a week ago which is coming from Germany. And the bits I ordered for today "should" be here on Wednesday (unless any are to be shipped over from Germany)

Re: The Boat... (a wanabe project log)

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:31 pm
by PaulW
Well I finally got more bits from VX, and today had a bit of a think as uni was cancelled about the exhaust manifolds, egr, sai etc etc...

The ports on the later manifolds are much bigger and if you junk the air injection you can really open the head out.....the manifolds are SO much better to!

The more I look at the later setup the more it would appear that the emission changes were lowering the output power so they HAD to work on the ancillaries to get the output back up in order to be a viable replacement for the 2.5 and 3.0

So as the later facelift manifolds flow better compared to early ones, I can do away with the EGR system too, as it wasn't a part of the Y32SE, so blanking the port on the plenum should work, aslong as I keep the valve and just hide it away somewhere, so will do some work on the engine loom aswell to hide it.

I've got some copper plate somewhere I can make a blanking plate for the plenum with...

Only thing which annoys me is I bought the X30XE exhaust manifold gaskets, and they are different for the Y32SE fit manofilds... But I may be able to adapt them, if not I'll use them on the explod as they are blowing quite a bit...

Anyways, here are pics of the manifolds

Early cast item top, later pressed steel bottom, note how much wider the pressed steel version is and consider also the wall thickness is much less than that of the cast part.

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A view in the exit, note the smoother opening of the pressed steel item (right hand one), there is still a step, but, its much smoother and less pronouced on the later item

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A shot of head facing port on the early manifold, you can see also the milled duct for the air injection.

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A side by side shot, the inernals are much more free flowing on the later item (right hand pic)

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Top shot of the pair

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