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High CO Emissions

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:00 pm
by karl123
Hello all. My car failed today on high CO.
Lamda okay :)
HC okay :)
New cat and exhaust last year alothough its only done 500 miles between MOT's (learner).
Is it possible that the car is just needing a good run to clear the cat? Or could somthing else be causing it to be running rich?
Also Air bag light on the dash won't go off. Anyone got a cure for this? (The drivers seat belt aint working right. Is it possible that the air bag light and the buckle are connected?

If you need to know the model its a 1l corsa b GLS.

Thanks all, Karl.

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:28 pm
by scotty cav turbo
What is the actual reading for the C0? Yes the seatbelt could be affecting the air bag light if its the pre tensior style. Try disconnecting the battery for around 10 mins as that may clear the code, if thats no good then you'll need to plug into tech 2 or omnitec to check then erase faults.

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:32 pm
by karl123
Right lets give this a go....

fast idle 1.32%

Second fast Idle 1.19%

Natural Idle 1.59%

A bitty high :P

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:54 pm
by scotty cav turbo
Telling me!! :lol: Right in my honest opinion, its running like a car with out a cat on, but as you say the cat was replaced last year. Know its gonna sound stupid but was it a cheap cat? Ive seen loads of them at our place fook up within a year and when i come to test them, a year on, they fail. Basicly the monolythim inside the cat breaks down. Are you having to pay a partial retest fee??

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:58 pm
by karl123
If i can get the car back there in 10 working days then I dont have to. I just bought the car last year and the boy said he fitted a new one for the MOT and there wasnt a problem there. But he also told us he was using it to go to work and back, the car hadnt been taxed since 2004! :P Maybe he was lying. :P I'll see about the cat though. I'll get my dad to have a look :P How much would a new cat cost?
Cheers karl.

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:14 pm
by scotty cav turbo
Yeah normal 10 day then. Trouble is if you, say take it for a good thrash to clear it out and then take it back there and it fails again, by rights they should fail it again (so theres your partial retest gone outta the window) and then next time they will have to do a full test @ full fee again, which aint good news. Yes that does seem like a bit of a FIBBER! As for prices just had a look thro me Unipart catolouge and for a ceramic (cheap one) roughly £51/65 and for a prop (metal) £137/155. Obviously prices may vary in different areas. Would visually look at it 1st to see if it does look newish. God im knackered now............. :lol:

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:17 pm
by karl123
I noticed you hvae done lots of posting. Say the new one had been fitted. Would 500 miles well.....f**k it? :P

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:21 pm
by scotty cav turbo
Erm if not being taken upto working tempreture all the time then yes. A cat will only start working over 300-400 degrees C, so if it being driven slowly and not up to tempreture all the time it will cause premeture failure.

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:23 pm
by karl123
So my temprature thing in the car that lets the fuel in (the automatic choak?) maybe failing?

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:33 pm
by scotty cav turbo
No, if your not going on a long journey and getting the engine really hot. If you potter around when your learing lets say for 5-10 miles the cat really aint gonna get that hot and work properly. The auto choke is controled by the ECU temp switch which YES will cause high C0 but the Hc's (unburnt fuel) and Lambda will also be miles high as its throwing way too much fuel through the engine but as you say there fine.......

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:55 pm
by karl123
Oh thanks :) I'll have a look tomorrow, I'll keep you posted :)

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:23 am
by jhibbert
This may sound daft but it works half the time, give it a good service and then a blast on the motorway, then straight to the MOT station, but make sure ur cat is checked first.

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:41 pm
by karl123
Right, The cat is new and there is nothing wrong with the thermostat (sp) and the sensor. We have tried everything. So maybe we will have to try the service and then a blast. :) Thanks.

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:22 pm
by scotty cav turbo
Any good mate??

Re: High CO Emissions

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:14 pm
by karl123
Well we took it for a blast. For a good old italian clean out :D it was smokie for a while and when the gears got changed a puff of smoke came out but about 5 miles down the road that had stoped. I have my MOT booked for sat so I'll let you know how it goes :)

Sadly Wednesday my MOT runs out sowe can't take it for a drive to keep it running after tomorrow. I guess one last run would help :)

Oh I seemed to pretty far under with the oil. Is it possible that could make it run rich?