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1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:53 pm
by Corsa84
i have a 1.2 16v w reg corsa.

ive just bought a 1.6 16v s reg corsa sport.

im wanting to know what sort of cost is involved in putting the 1.6 into my 1.2.

i got a quote of 800 approx from a local garage but i think they are tryin to rip me off.

i have the complete s reg corsa sport car so i should have everything needed to perform the transplant.

i dont want anything bigger eg 1.8 or 2.0.

any ideas of cost and what work is involved?

thanks . :)

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:04 pm
by ManicGTI
Sorry to state the obvious....but why not just ditch the 1.2 and drive the sport?

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:09 pm
by Corsa84
i was waiting for that one lol.

i dont want to drive the sport coz its no where near as clean and tidy as my 1.2 lol.plus ive made my 1.2 my own now and i would have to swap everything over onto the sport and i dont really wanna be swapping all the mods over lol.

surely it cant be too hard to put the 1.6 in my 1.2.

would the ecu of the 1.6 fit the wiring in my 1.2?would the rest of my car ie driveshafts,engine mounts need to be swapped?ive been to a local mechanic today and he said the ecu would not work in my car and that the whole loom would need replacing and its not worth the hassle but ive read on here sumwhere that the ecu is plug and play? what would happen with things like PAS and aircon coz my car dont have them and i dont really want them anyway but the 1.6 has all the ancillaries for these?

both are post 96 models (facelift)

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:56 pm
by kie-1200sxi-shed
you will be suprised how much effort it will take to get the 1.6 in the 1.2 as you will have to take all of the loom , wiring , engine , mounts etc as you couldnt use the 1.2's wires . you may have read about putting a 1.4 into a 1.2 as the wiring looms are the same ( however 1.6 is different ) you may just find it easyier and alot cheaper to swap you mods instead. but to get it done by the garage id be expecting £500-£700 as it will be mainly labour costs.

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:01 pm
by Corsa84
brilliant answer.thankyou. :)

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:18 pm
by Corsa84
ok so if the 1.4 is a easy job and to be fair the 1.4 sri has 90bhp and the 1.6 has 105/6 bhp then to be honest i would be better selling the 1.6 engine/gearbox and getting a 1.4 yes?

i mean the 1.2 has 64bhp so im sure i would see some gains even with a 1.4 sri engine?

if i bought a 1.4 sri engine and gearbox what else would i need for it to work.sorry for sounding like a noob but im not 100% sure when it comes to engine conversions.

or do you mean the lower power 1.4 engines would fit and work.?

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:26 pm
by dandadan
to be honest i would just tidy up the 1.6 and swap the mods over and if need be the money you get from selling the 1.2 could pay towards finishing the 1.6, thats what i would do but obviuosly its not me with the predicament, i think you would get to many problems with the engine swap with it not being a straight forward swap.

good luck with what you do and i hope it all works out for you

dan

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:33 pm
by Corsa84
as ive already said mate.im not swapping bits from my 1.2 over to the sport.

my 1.2 is almost mint and the 1.6 is a real let down on the bodywork,as well as been black which imo is the worst colour.

all i was wondering is about changing the engine/gearbox thats all.

i think i will sell the 1.6 engine and gearbox while its still in the chassis and take off all the bits i want then with the money just buy a 1.4 sri engine.(90bhp) :)

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:39 pm
by kie-1200sxi-shed
if you wanted to keep the 1.2 then yes a 1.4 engine would go in no probem you would just need engine,gearbox and engine mounts , however i would also suggest gettin upgraded brakes from a 1.4-1.6

engine swapz withought much hassle is :

x12xe ( 1.2 16v ) ---> x14xe ( 1.4 16v )
and then same with 8v ( but there pooo lol )

if both cars are usable y not sell both the 1.2 and 1.6 and then get a mint condition 1.4-1.6 ??? would take longer but would be soo much easyier and you wudnt even have to get your hands dirty .

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:45 pm
by Corsa84
kie-1200sxi-shed you are the best person on here and give the best answers!

i would not go for a 8v as you say they are poo!

but a 1.4 16v will deffo go in my 1.2 16v without any hassle? im abit gutted about the 1.6 16v engine not been a ''straight'' swap but if a 1.4 16v is a better option then i guess thats the way forwards.

what would i need from a 1.4 16v other than the engine,gearbox,mounts and ecu?

once again thanks for your help.

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:53 pm
by kie-1200sxi-shed
lol no problem, thats what im here to do ( well to my best ability on what i know )
well from being told all you would have to have is :

x14xe engine
gearbox ( hopefully will be attachd to engine, trust me pain in the ass to attach lol )
engine mounts
brakes ( disks + calipers )
well thats what i know but thers always sumat else
just type in engine swaps x12xe to x14xe sure thers a project log telling you everything on google
but good luck and make sure you take some piccies.

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:55 pm
by Corsa84
thank you soooooooooo much :D :D :D

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:29 pm
by dandadan
will the driveshafts be the same?

Re: 1.2 to 1.6

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:08 pm
by kie-1200sxi-shed
well i got told that the driveshaft would be the same as the 1.4 i think they only change once up2 the 1.6 but corsa84 please check before hand as i really dnt wanna say yes or no when i dnt know my self.

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